every situation is different, every situation is more or less personal. loving questionable things doesn't make you a bad person, and nobody and nothing is perfect. for me the Liverpool thing is easier because I like Patrice Evra very much as a person and I'm inclined to take his side anyway, and obviously I'm not terribly conflicted about it because Liverpool isn't a favorite of mine. the way I put things in the original post, I think I wasn't clear: god knows I love plenty of questionable things myself. there is NOTHING wrong with acknowledging what happened and still loving Liverpool enough to get over it. I myself do not. that's me. not anybody else.