no, I know, there's a reason I rambled all over the place in my personal journal rather than bringing it up at the comm. which I personally am never going to do, given the various handicaps I have assigned myself over time with interacting with football fandom. XD and hell yes I'm judging the hell out of anyone who's old enough to know how to appreciate her own girl parts but doesn't want to think about why she never ever ever would want to read about someone else's girl parts because ew het, which is a significant part of slash fandom. (admittedly the assumption that I'm talking about slash fandom specifically did go... unspoken. it was very late, sorry.) there are plenty of grown women who never question the misogynistic attitudes that society has implanted in them. it's not their fault but that doesn't mean I think that's a good thing. (but I know you probably had a really different experience getting to where you are in fandom and I'd be curious to hear about it if you're willing to tell me! what happened to me I think usually happens to people who are or have been in Big Slash Fandom, and sports fandom, as we've discussed many a time, is weird and kind of divorced from other kinds of fandom. people who are only in Yuletide-style fandoms probably have a very different experience too, but that's so totally divorced from what I was talking about that it didn't seem worth bringing up.)
I focused on het because there's nothing stopping someone from posting femmeslash to the current main forum for football fic besides personal inclination; the problem there is exactly what you're describing, that wider football culture doesn't really care about female players so there's no educated audience for fic about them. (I can't even articulate my hang-ups about this. every time I try something different comes out.) but wider football culture does care about women who are involved in the men's game. Kickette is insanely popular and gossip about players' wives and girlfriends fuels so many tabloids. I totally get what you mean about not wanting to write people who don't have public personae--but at the same time, people write about Olalla Dominguez in Sernando fic all the time. they just only ever write her as a side-character that either roadblocks or graciously steps aside to allow the main romance. idk. I get that it's less difficult to make up characterization for someone if they're not the protagonist but... yeah, I really don't know about that one.
which isn't even getting into the "cult" female figures of the wider culture, like Eva Gonzalez at Chelsea or Sharon at Man City. (or even the lady presenter on ChelseaTV, whose name I don't know. but I think everyone has seen the clips of David Luiz making faces in the background while she's filming, and didn't she get hit in the head with a ball during training once?) Kickette talks about them; fandom is aware they exist. and it is currently fucking with my head big time that I've been thinking about writing fic about one of the (male) Barça physios but my own initial reaction to my thought of a fic about, idk, Eva Gonzalez/Juan Mata is a knee-jerk oh obviously self-insert Mary-Sue. ugh wtf self DON'T BE LIKE THIS. off to do some self-reflection.
(I know, I saw your prompts, I'm sorry! ;_; Per's wife sounds really cool but I just have zero interest in Per Mertesacker... I should have tried to do a better job getting people who know more about the Germans for you to play with.)
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I focused on het because there's nothing stopping someone from posting femmeslash to the current main forum for football fic besides personal inclination; the problem there is exactly what you're describing, that wider football culture doesn't really care about female players so there's no educated audience for fic about them. (I can't even articulate my hang-ups about this. every time I try something different comes out.) but wider football culture does care about women who are involved in the men's game. Kickette is insanely popular and gossip about players' wives and girlfriends fuels so many tabloids. I totally get what you mean about not wanting to write people who don't have public personae--but at the same time, people write about Olalla Dominguez in Sernando fic all the time. they just only ever write her as a side-character that either roadblocks or graciously steps aside to allow the main romance. idk. I get that it's less difficult to make up characterization for someone if they're not the protagonist but... yeah, I really don't know about that one.
which isn't even getting into the "cult" female figures of the wider culture, like Eva Gonzalez at Chelsea or Sharon at Man City. (or even the lady presenter on ChelseaTV, whose name I don't know. but I think everyone has seen the clips of David Luiz making faces in the background while she's filming, and didn't she get hit in the head with a ball during training once?) Kickette talks about them; fandom is aware they exist. and it is currently fucking with my head big time that I've been thinking about writing fic about one of the (male) Barça physios but my own initial reaction to my thought of a fic about, idk, Eva Gonzalez/Juan Mata is a knee-jerk oh obviously self-insert Mary-Sue. ugh wtf self DON'T BE LIKE THIS. off to do some self-reflection.
(I know, I saw your prompts, I'm sorry! ;_; Per's wife sounds really cool but I just have zero interest in Per Mertesacker... I should have tried to do a better job getting people who know more about the Germans for you to play with.)