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meretricula ([personal profile] meretricula) wrote2012-03-03 01:25 pm
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odds and ends

I did make a post about Barça Femenino over at [livejournal.com profile] _fcbarcelona_, if anyone would like to check it out! I want to get some more stuff translated and find more pictures before I post to my journal, though.

I don't think I ever mentioned that I was reccing Barça fic for [livejournal.com profile] crack_van last month, did I? well, anyway, those recs are up too under the rpf: professional athlete tag if you want to take a look. I don't think there's anything in there that I haven't recced in some capacity before, but still. (just, um, ignore any recs in that tag that aren't by me. or don't, feel free to check them out! but they're not my endorsements, so I take zero responsibility for them.)

still thinking about creating a vids section to the football rec post. I don't know. there's not that many half-decent vids out there, and I have most of them saved to my computer, so it wouldn't be hard, it's just that I can't be objective and I'm not sure if that matters. I'll read fic about people I don't know; I'll read fic about people I hate. I really can't watch vids of them. (and I will watch really terrible vids of people I love. case in point: you have no idea how many times I have watched that.)

speaking of things I hate: look, as a general rule I don't hate teams. for the most part I try not to care about teams other than my own one way or the other. I'll root for the underdog against Bayern Munich or Manchester United (and when they drop points my teams are safer, so there's that too), but I don't hate them. there are players that I like on both teams. and yes, I sure as hell hate Madrid, but not because they're Barcelona's rival and cules are supposed to blindly despise them; I hate them because they stepped on Leo and shoved Puyi in the face and tried to break Cesc's leg and point-blank accused Pep of cheating to win the Champions League and have never been the least bit sorry for any of it. (and their president is an idiot, but you can't really hold that against anyone.) but it really has reached the point where I hate Liverpool. I hate them, I hope they lose every game they play, and unless they ship Luis Suarez out to Russia I will never respect them again. I would rather they lose to Manchester United than win.

I know some of you guys are Liverpool fans, and I do get that. if you can look past the bad stuff and still love the good stuff, that's your prerogative; everybody does that to some extent or another with their team. yes, Lucas Leiva is adorable. the academy kids are cute. Steven Gerrard's life is a beautiful tragedy. but none of that will ever make up for the utter bullshit that has come out of that club this season to me, so I'm sorry, but I hope they never win again.

[identity profile] the-beanster.livejournal.com 2012-03-04 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, everyone has a tipping point. I mean, if Busquets was accused of something again (or if he acted like Suarez did), I don't know if I'd be able to root for him ever again, but at this point bc it was kinda dropped, I'm merely lukewarm about him. But I'm different with Barça - not that I think they can do no wrong bc they're better than that or something, but that when they do something/are accused of doing something, it hurts more simply bc I care more about them. So...I don't know how I would have felt if you put the Suarez situation in Barça bc I don't know if I can *not* want them to win bc of that. I'd like to think I'd be a good person and say racism is too much for me and I can't support a team that stands behind someone who's racist, but that's the same as me saying 'oh, of course I'd risk my life to save a loved one' - I hope I'd do that, but I thankfully haven't been put in that situation so I can't say I would. So, altho I agree with you 100%, it's easier for me bc it's not a team I support anyway, so them losing won't hurt me as a fan. But if it's a Barça boy? I could either be even more disgusted or I'd get defensive about everyone not directly connected to the situation.

It's kinda like when Kaka got frustrated on the pitch and I think pushed a player? Or kicked the ball? Not sure what happened, but I felt really sad bc in my head that doesn't make sense, you know? He doesn't do that kinda stuff, imo, not bc I wanna say he's above that but bc it's not part of his personality? So...I guess I do expect more of him, maybe? *sigh* I'm not making sense and being contradictory I think. But that's kinda like I'd react if a Barça boy does something stupid. It's not part of the image, for me.

As for the shirts thing? Yeah, I completely agree. When Barça did it (lol, I just keep going back to them) for Villa? It was a great gesture of unity and support. When several La Liga teams honored Abi when it was announced that he had a tumor - that made me feel amazing. As did when the entire football community came together to support Japan and, more recently, Egypt. I love that unity that we get - but only in situations that warrant it. If he had been accused and treated terribly but in the end we found out that he was innocent (and in a way that could be proven, you know?). I'd feel terrible! And yes, then I wish the football community would come together and support him. But this isn't a situation like that and altho they can support him and say that it's innocent until proven guilty, he didn't deserve the shirts. That's something that to me shows a true loss of some sort. And after he refused to shake the player's hand? Ugh.

...I don't know if there was a point to this. And if there was, I'm not sure if I came to it? But yes, I agree as an outsider but I don't know what I'd do as a fan if City or, even worse, Barça did something like this. And sorry about the length.

[identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com 2012-03-04 06:51 pm (UTC)(link)
every situation is different, every situation is more or less personal. loving questionable things doesn't make you a bad person, and nobody and nothing is perfect. for me the Liverpool thing is easier because I like Patrice Evra very much as a person and I'm inclined to take his side anyway, and obviously I'm not terribly conflicted about it because Liverpool isn't a favorite of mine. the way I put things in the original post, I think I wasn't clear: god knows I love plenty of questionable things myself. there is NOTHING wrong with acknowledging what happened and still loving Liverpool enough to get over it. I myself do not. that's me. not anybody else.

[identity profile] the-beanster.livejournal.com 2012-03-04 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
*nod* This entire comment? I'm in total agreement with it. And yeah, it's your journal - you're just stating your opinion. Nothing wrong with that :)