well, yeah. It's obviously not the way everyone feels about canon fic, but it's how *I* feel about canon fic. Especially if I like the canon narrative, oddly enough- I don't want fic for everything I watch and enjoy, which is probably why my fandom experience has been so scattered. If the canon "satisfies" me I don't need fic for it. (Like, I really wanted fic for The Tudors but not Rome when they were both airing.)
Yeah, I could totally be misinterpreting you, but that's what I got out of what you were saying and why I reacted the way I did. This is my fandom (and research project), I feel obligated to defend it. But I do feel like there should be a place for het fic, and I do feel like people "should" read it, etc etc. If you hadn't immediately started it as "football fandom is immature as a whole because this ten-year-old community is not the way I want it to be" I would have reacted differently. But now it kind of makes more sense- it's a problem you had with your past self more, and that's who you're angry with.
Wives and girlfriends to me are only part of "the story" if they're inserted into the story, if that makes sense. I get my information from games and football news sites/magazines and "mainstream" fan blogs, etc. Like, my example (because Germans are my thing) is of Sarah Brandner vs. Mario Gomez's girlfriend. Sarah is much more visible of a character- we see her interacting with Bastian in photo shoots and in the stands, she gives interviews, Bastian talks about her a lot, he's got her name stitched in his boots, etc. However, I don't even remember Mario Gomez's girlfriend's name off the top of my head even though they've been dating for twice as long as Sarah and Bastian. But we don't see her. She doesn't give interviews, she's not photographed with Mario in the stands much, only occasionally is at events, she certainly doesn't do photoshoots (and they don't do them together). So I don't encounter her- the "Mario Gomez" in my head, the one constructed from photos and interviews and DFB videos, doesn't have a girlfriend. Unlike Bastian, who does. Which is also kind of weird, I know, but that's basically the way I think.
"Do not find interesting" doesn't mean "hate'," it just means "does not find interesting." I don't like everything or everyone- I have to be interested in a character to want to read/write fic about him/her. (To me, actually, character is more interesting than relationships, which means I run into problems in fandom where what I really want to write is Philipp Lahm being bitter and single but without a partner for him there's really no place for that kind of story? I legitimately like genfic and always have, so.) Like, I'm not super interested in David Silva, which I know makes me a rarity in this fandom, so I don't read a lot of David Silva stories unless I'm really bored and it's recommended to me and/or he's paired with someone I do find interesting. I don't read everything in fandom because a lot of it I just don't care about. (but I will go on for ages about my Germans because I find them super-interesting.) Which is also a not-everyone-does-it kind of thing. It's just how I work. (And to go back to The Tudors: I was always annoyed because what little fic there was tended to be for the canon gay couple, who were both boring as hell, or Henry/Charles Brandon, which I wasn't interested in very much.)
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Date: 2012-06-04 02:57 pm (UTC)Yeah, I could totally be misinterpreting you, but that's what I got out of what you were saying and why I reacted the way I did. This is my fandom (and research project), I feel obligated to defend it. But I do feel like there should be a place for het fic, and I do feel like people "should" read it, etc etc. If you hadn't immediately started it as "football fandom is immature as a whole because this ten-year-old community is not the way I want it to be" I would have reacted differently. But now it kind of makes more sense- it's a problem you had with your past self more, and that's who you're angry with.
Wives and girlfriends to me are only part of "the story" if they're inserted into the story, if that makes sense. I get my information from games and football news sites/magazines and "mainstream" fan blogs, etc. Like, my example (because Germans are my thing) is of Sarah Brandner vs. Mario Gomez's girlfriend. Sarah is much more visible of a character- we see her interacting with Bastian in photo shoots and in the stands, she gives interviews, Bastian talks about her a lot, he's got her name stitched in his boots, etc. However, I don't even remember Mario Gomez's girlfriend's name off the top of my head even though they've been dating for twice as long as Sarah and Bastian. But we don't see her. She doesn't give interviews, she's not photographed with Mario in the stands much, only occasionally is at events, she certainly doesn't do photoshoots (and they don't do them together). So I don't encounter her- the "Mario Gomez" in my head, the one constructed from photos and interviews and DFB videos, doesn't have a girlfriend. Unlike Bastian, who does. Which is also kind of weird, I know, but that's basically the way I think.
"Do not find interesting" doesn't mean "hate'," it just means "does not find interesting." I don't like everything or everyone- I have to be interested in a character to want to read/write fic about him/her. (To me, actually, character is more interesting than relationships, which means I run into problems in fandom where what I really want to write is Philipp Lahm being bitter and single but without a partner for him there's really no place for that kind of story? I legitimately like genfic and always have, so.) Like, I'm not super interested in David Silva, which I know makes me a rarity in this fandom, so I don't read a lot of David Silva stories unless I'm really bored and it's recommended to me and/or he's paired with someone I do find interesting. I don't read everything in fandom because a lot of it I just don't care about. (but I will go on for ages about my Germans because I find them super-interesting.) Which is also a not-everyone-does-it kind of thing. It's just how I work. (And to go back to The Tudors: I was always annoyed because what little fic there was tended to be for the canon gay couple, who were both boring as hell, or Henry/Charles Brandon, which I wasn't interested in very much.)