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ugh, so much Herodotus. it isn't even that it's hard at this point. there are just too many words.

Rafa lost his quarterfinal, sadface. I was upset for a split second and then remembered that I am in this fandom for the slash, not the actual tennis. my faith in Rafa's invincibility has been a little shaken, though, I admit. ~shrug~ whatever, he's still pretty. I kind of want the Davis Cup boypiles back. nothing can be upsetting when full-grown professional tennis players are bouncing up and down singing about how much they love Rafa.

in a strange convergence of fandoms, I have been thinking about threesome dynamics. (for those of you going: uh, what is she talking about, the threesomes I have been pondering are Tharkay/Laurence/Granby from Temeraire and Rafa/Feli/Nando from tennis slash.) perhaps this is because I have never quite been able to wrap my brain around polyamory, but I see them both (and they are both very different dynamics) as starting from two people in love with the same third person. however, I would fully buy Tharkay and Granby, both of whom are sort of hopelessly in love with Laurence the epically oblivious in canon, as getting with each other independent of Laurence, and I sort of rank that scenario as more probable than either of them getting with Laurence independently, just because Laurence is so deeply bound up with Temeraire that he would probably fail to notice sizzling sexual tension if it set his coat on fire. once Tharkay and Granby are involved with each other, they gain confidence and stability (which I think neither has had in, let's see, ever) and would be more comfortable approaching Laurence from the secure position of an established couple. rejection is scary! but less scary if you already know someone loves you. (thinky thoughts on Temeraire prompted by [personal profile] novembersmith's deliciously hot OT3 fic, which is through no fault of its own not really compatible with my personal canon. I love it to pieces! but it's not how I see it going down.)

by contrast, I think the Spanish OT3 absolutely cannot exist without Feli Lopez. I'd buy him with either Rafa or Nando and pulling the other one in, but Rafa/Nando? absolutely not. no spark. (and I say that having seen many Davis Cup pics where Rafa and Nando are snuggling shirtless or rolling around on the ground on top of each other. really. no relationship spark.)

as I try to analyze these findings, I'm wondering if it's based on how I see the... I don't know how to describe it, the balance of effort in the relationships? Laurence is a lot of work, and dearly as I love him, he doesn't give it back. he's too invested in doing his duty. he loves Temeraire, and so much of his energy is spent on looking after Temeraire that he really doesn't do a lot of caretaking for other people. (being a responsible commander is not caretaking as I'm defining it here. I mean looking after someone because of an emotional investment in their wellbeing.) Tharkay and Granby are following him to freaking Australia. that is some serious emotional investment. and they both, throughout the books, really do spend an increasing amount of time trying to take care of Laurence. (Laurence appreciates this irregularly.) unless Laurence changes somehow during the trip to Australia, I think he would destroy a lover who was in love with him. he wouldn't understand that he was doing it and he would be very sorry afterwards, but it wouldn't change the result. which is why Jane is awesome for him: she's not down with that nonsense! but seriously, Laurence is an absolute sink for energy, affection, and worry. two people making a concerted effort and also making sure to take care of each other could manage him, but... yeah. (Laurence, I still love you, bb!)

I see Feliciano as being the caretaker for both Rafa and Nando. a fun caretaker, someone who will tease and act like a friend, not a parent, but still, he's the one making the effort. he's part of Rafa's entourage, not the other way around, and I think Verdasco needs a lot of affection and reassurance. that's maybe unfair to Rafa; I don't know. based on pictorial evidence of him hugging everyone on the planet he's very comfortable giving physical affection, and absent any work on an author's part to convince me otherwise, I see him as the caretaker in the Roger/Rafa relationship. but I don't see him as willing to be the giver with Nando, which I guess is the relevant point, and I just don't see Lopez as needing the kind of effort and energy that would require him to be.

...I think my conception of the threesome dynamic is alarmingly co-dependent. will contemplate this further.

rambling meta brought to you by procrastination! whatever, I'm not sleeping anyway.
From: [identity profile] novembersmith.livejournal.com
And that is virtually the sum total of everything I remember from my Latin class, heh.

(Laurence appreciates this irregularly.)

HAH! That is so true. Also, oooh, thinky thoughts on threesomes, I want in. Especially since I have been doing A LOT of thinking on them lately. I think I have an entirely different conception of the dynamics than you, which may be obvious since otherwise I'd be writing entirely different stories. I agree Laurence doesn't take very good care of himself, and that he needs several dedicated keepers, but I think that says more about how he thinks about himself. I feel like once Laurence realized something was going on, that person A or B (let us for the sake of argument call these people Thanby and Grahkay) was in love with him, he would struggle with it a lot, and ponder it, and talk it out with his dragon, who would cut through all the bullshit with a simple and profound yet horribly socially inappropriate statement, and then after a lot of wibbling and angsting, he'd come to terms with it and pounce.

I guess what I love so much about Laurence is that he's such a dynamic character--he really has gone through such dramatic changes in the course of the series. I don't know if I even actually liked Laurence very much at the beginning of His Majesty's Dragon, and now you can pry him from my cold dead fingers. I think you're definitely right, though, about him being entirely wrapped up in Temeraire in the first two books--first in the "HOLY SHIT I HAVE A DRAGON" rush and then the "WTF GTFO CHINA AAHHHH" bit. But I do think we see him becoming more aware in all the books, of the people he's with and of the ideas he'd taken for granted his whole life. And I think as a result of having gone through what he did in the end of EoI and VoE, and having survived--I don't think HMD-era Laurence could ever have conceived surviving that, you know?--I feel like, as a person, that's an enormous change, that he's re-evaulating a lot of things.

Grant you, I am a crazed Laurence fan! I am not at all impartial. And I definitely think it's important that regardless of what happens, Temeraire is naturally the first person (Er, dragon... dragons are people, right? Right.) in Laurence's life. Actually, that's sort of true for all dragons and their captains, isn't it? Jane and Excidium, and now Granby and Iskierka, who requires, if anything, more attention than the average dragon. In this scenario, Tharkay is the one that I tend to worry about being left out--luckily, I think once he gets his bearings, he's not the type to just loll around bemoaning his neglect. He's more likely to thwack people with a newspaper, or turn up in eyeliner and strike people dead with the hot. But yeah, that's part of why I love Laurence/Granby--Granby, like Roland, would know exactly what sort of level of investment to expect from a captain with a dragon, and as for Tharkay, I think he's cautious enough that by the time he got involved in a relationship he would have sussed that out for himself.

Obviously, YMMV. I am not here to be like "OMG YOUR IDEA OF THREESOMES IS WRONG." But here is my take on their personal threesome dynamics as I tend to see and write them? ALSOTHANKYOU. I'm glad you thought it was hot.

...now you've got me eyeing tennis slash with interest. DAMN YOU. I don't even know anything about tennis. Other that it involves terms like thirty-love. And rackets.
From: [identity profile] novembersmith.livejournal.com
HAH, I just rambled all over your journal. ...oops?

tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow!

Date: 2009-04-03 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
yay, conversational meta! I could do this all day! please feel free to ramble as much as you like. =D

I mean, I totally agree that Laurence has changed a lot in the books. and very much for the better. and it is totally possible that in re-evaluating after VoE he will change again, and be capable of a relationship with an equal amount of give-and-take. I don't think he is right now. the last scene of VoE, where he's still being all broody rather than, as I think would be more sensible, ecstatic over not being dead, getting to keep Temeraire, and okay, yes, exiled, but not entirely alone and knowing that a lot of his friends still support him, points me towards thinking he's still a little too tied up in the vestigial beliefs that he's been shedding throughout the books.

here's my main thing, though, about Laurence and Temeraire: I always got the impression that their relationship is, even for a good aviator-dragon pair, atypical. Laurence gets all of his emotional needs fulfilled in Temeraire - best friend, unconditional love, intellectual exchange. the only thing he's not getting is laid, and I don't see that as really upsetting him all that much. I mean, he'd like to be getting laid (THIS IS WHY JANE IS BALLER) but he's not going out there and proactively looking for it, because he already has everything else you'd be looking for in a sexual and romantic relationship. Iskierka is not enough for Granby. not even remotely. and I think we can all agree that he really needs some help with her. (this is part of why I like Tharkay with Granby so much, actually; I think they'd make a really good parent team for Iskierka.) Laurence is pretty effectively married to Temeraire, yeah? whereas Iskierka is more like Granby's incredibly beloved and spoiled daughter. Tharkay I think is more likely than Granby to understand the difference between the two, if only because he's so used to being an outsider looking in on other people's relationships.

but, on the other hand, Laurence has always been described as a very social person whose need for other people has been derailed by his all-encompassing love for Temeraire, and I would totally buy him, as he gets more used to this idea that, hey, somebody loves me, maybe I deserve it, getting to be more involved in other people again.

you know you want the tennis slash! if you're considering dipping your toe in the water, I have some starter links here:

http://meretricula.livejournal.com/105785.html

so you can see the attractiveness of the people we're talking about. I didn't know anything about tennis either! I keep having to Wiki things and people. like "how to score in tennis." I still don't get that.
From: [identity profile] novembersmith.livejournal.com
Hmm, see, I wasn't surprised Laurence wasn't ecstatic. Baby steps, in my opinion. I was pretty pleased that he realized that it wasn't the end of the world--that there is a life after committing treason, that he still has honor left and it's up to him to decide what that means (THARKAY ILU BTW). I think he has a whole lot of thinking and brooding to do, to try to discover who he is now. Most of VoE was just that--him not knowing who he is, not being able to reconcile being a traitor with still being alive. He's not going to resolve anything overnight. Which is what makes the long voyage across several oceans so very appealing, especially since he has Temeraire with him, to say nothing, of course, of Tharkay and Granby. And even Riley, if he pulls himself together. (CHRIST, BUCK UP, DUDE, I MISS YOUR RANTY RACIST, TERRIBLE FACE! Man, he's such the epitome of the times, but ILHIM.)

And yeah, I definitely get the impression that Laurence and Temeraire are unusually close, but I think Lily and Catherine are perhaps borderline on that level of closeness too--Lily is certainly extremely intelligent and very much involved in her captain's life--grant you, her relationship with Riley didn't go so well. But then, see above. Riley was probably, uh, not the best choice to try that with. Choiseul, if he hadn't been a filthy rotten traitor, might have worked out better. I think either way a dragon's captain is pretty much completely invested in his or her dragon, to the point that marriage is an alarming proposal. And, um, sometimes my mind totally goes to the Laurence/Temeraire place, which I CANNOT BE BLAMED FOR IF NAOMI INSISTS UPON WRITING THEM LIKE A REGENCY ROMANTIC COUPLE. His dream is to have a little house with a garden big enough for Temeraire to lie in! *SWOON* Only, you know, the mechanics are a bit sketchy, so for the most part I let that one lie. *glares plot bunnies into submission*

But I guess for me that was never really an obstacle in Laurence having a relationship, as long as Temeraire was still involved--NOT LIKE THAT, CHRIST. Which is one of the reasons I like L/G, since Granby's already served on his crew and they have a bond together. The same applies to Tharkay, actually. Plus, I like to think Temeraire and Tharkay have random conversations now and again about their respective travels, IDK. Personal canon, I guess.

Oooh, I never really looked at Tharkay/Granby like that before, and that is entirely fascinating. One of my favorite ways to look at my OT3, actually, is as three captains with two dragons--it just never occurred to me to take Temeraire and Laurence out of the equation. I think it could probably work pretty well either way, but I do prefer the threesome, which, uh. You may have noticed. Plus, Temeraire and Iskierka, as much as I guess some fans dislike it, do have a bond, and I think as they both grow older they'll continue to squabble, but... you know, I think Temeraire will be very glad to have Iskierka along with them, in the end. As for Iskierka herself... man, what a mess. I absolutely adore her as a character, despite all the crazy shenanigans she's been pulling, and I keep hoping she'll settle down at least somewhat--she clearly needs more of Jane's influence (ONE OF MY FAVORITE SCENES EVER WAS HER MEETING BB!ISKIERKA IN ALL HER UNIFORMED FINERY! UNFF. *fans self*). But hmm, for me, I never saw Iskierka as a daughter figure for Granby. I guess I just don't like the idea of seeing the dragons as children--she acts very childish, yeah, but to me it comes off more as, I don't know, some crazy diva opera singer? HEE, WITH GRANBY AS HER HAPLESS ASSISTANT. ...sorry, I... I just spew cracky ideas everywhere. Um. Ignore that.

What I love about Laurence and Tharkay, actually, is that they're both outsiders--and Granby sort of joins their ranks once Iskierka gets older and more unruly, and he starts going against the grain of normalized Corps behavior, too. Don't get me wrong, I really, really love Laurence/Roland, and just wrote some girl!Laurence femmeslash commentfic with her. Mmmm. But in the end I have a huge soft spot for L/T/G, and even if Granby hadn't wound up on the boat with them at the end of VoE, I'd probably have written an AU where he did, because I am crazy like that. :)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
haha, man, I wasn't surprised. just a little headdesky. oh, Laurence, you don't need Napoleon to beat you up when you do it so well for yourself.

Lily and Catherine are so sweet! they're totally BFF. I like Riley, but Riley/Catherine makes me go o_O;; a little. DOOMED TO FAILURE. THAT POOR INFANT. it's hard to put into words, exactly, except the way you did: Laurence and Temeraire are such a Regency couple! I'm always melting inside over their woobie declarations of love. all they are lacking is the final scene where Laurence abruptly proposes marriage and they fling themselves into each other's arms. how so adorable? how?

I bet Temeraire matchmakes. "Oh, Laurence, surely you do not wish to go seventh months without mating? Tharkay is very pleasant, do you not agree? Or perhaps Granby! Even though he was stolen from me, are you listening, Iskierka? Maybe if he enjoyed mating with you he would come back! Are you any good at mating, Laurence?" (As you can perhaps tell, I don't think Temeraire would be jealous or in any way prevent Laurence from having a relationship with someone, so long as it was someone Temeraire knew well. My concern is more that Laurence wouldn't really think to get into a relationship in the first place.)

hmm. well, I mean, most people write their personal canon, yeah? and mine was the story arc with Only a Signal Shown in the middle of it, since that was originally supposed to be an OT3 story; I just couldn't get there in time. although I guess that isn't my canon in the sense that I see it happening in the books; it's what I want to happen in the books. but I really liked the idea that once Granby got with Tharkay (through the bond of their mutual unrequited love for Laurence), Tharkay is part of Iskierka's family, and he helps settle her down. god, I hope she settles down. I don't want Granby to turn into an unhappy alcoholic. although OMG DIVA ISKIERKA. AWESOME.

I am getting kind of incoherent here! sorry. um, so my main point, I think, was that Laurence's characterization is so dependent on his half-willful blindness to anything he doesn't expect to see. he isn't going to expect Tharkay or Granby to be in love with him, so it's going to have to be pointed out to him, and then he's going to need to struggle with it. and I'm fine with him reciprocating in the end, so long as he does struggle and it's not easy for him to come to grips with it. (you know, I was such a hardcore Laurence/Granby shipper for the first few books! and then I tried to write Temeraire for yuletide and somehow I decided I wanted Tharkay and Granby to hook up instead. now my brain hurts from trying to articulate why.)

OMG GIRL!LAURENCE FEMMESLASH? WHERE?
From: [identity profile] novembersmith.livejournal.com
Laurence does take that "your own worst enemy" thing to a whole new level, doesn't he? He's so noble it hurts!

And man, I had hopes for Riley and Catherine, only Riley went sort of batshit towards the end, holding the baby all by himself, all wild-eyed and talking nonsense. Maybe it was the sleep deprivation that comes with taking care of new infants--especially if the mom is off fighting battles somewhere and the dad has to deal with it all on his own. Either way, I sincerely fear for that child. I hope one of Riley's relatives intervenes and steals it. Or Tharkay, Granby, and Laurence can raise it! AN ALCOHOLIC, A CONVICT AND A LONE VOICE OF REASON RAISE A BABY IN THE AUSTRALIAN OUTBACK. You can't tell me it you wouldn't read it. IT TAKES A VILLAGE (OF MADMEN AND THEIR DRAGONS) TO RAISE A CHILD, OKAY? Um. I may be a bit sleep-deprived? WHAT.

Ohhhh, sorry--I got the impression that maybe you thought Laurence would avoid a relationship for Temeraire's sake, which I could definitely see him doing, actually, with someone like Edith, from normal civilian society. And yeah, Temeraire would totally matchmake and loudly discuss potential sexual partners for Laurence, and probably the morning after he'd try to get Granby and/or Tharkay to report on Laurence's sexual prowess. I bet he and Iskierka would get into loud arguments over who's captain was better in bed.

Isn't it funny how stories morph like that? You're trying to write one thing, and then the characters laugh at you and do something totally different. I actually had a fic where I was like, okay! Now Granby will be in love with Tharkay! Everything's going as planned! And then he started flirting with Laurence instead, and I had to replot everything. DAMMIT GRANBY. And no, I totally agree that Laurence needs to struggle with it--I just think once he makes up his mind, he's probably committed to it. Like, it takes him a while to get there, but once he does, he's THERE.

Oh, crap, it's... somewhere in this thread. I am pretty easily goaded into writing girl!Laurence. It's time I faced the sad truth.
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
haha, babyfic! maybe they could take in an abandoned Aboriginal baby or something? (it seems like the kind of thing Laurence would do, not at all realizing what a shit-ton of work babies are.) the only thing that could be better would be mpreg.

...don't look at me like that.

...

"Laurence," Tharkay asked, with absolutely no inflection, "is that a baby?"

"Her whole family has died of smallpox!" Laurence said defensively. "There was no-one to take her in."

"And so... you decided that you were somehow qualified to raise an infant?"

"Well, better than letting her starve to death," Laurence snapped. He tightened his grip on the baby; the increased pressure woke her, and she immediately began to wail.

"Oh, no," Laurence said. He stared down at her blankly. "What do I do?"

"How should I know? I've never had a baby!"

"Oh, now, now, who's a sweet little darling?" Granby cooed, swooping down to lift the baby out of Laurence's grasp. She stopped screaming, seemingly more out of confusion than anything else. "Who's a lovely, lovely sweet girl? Whatever is the matter, sweetheart? Are you hungry, hmm?" He bounced her up and down a little, and she settled with a final, uncertain hiccup. "Well, let's get you to the kitchens and find you something to eat, shall we?"

"John," Laurence said.

"Oh, there's no need to worry, Laurence; I helped my mother with my younger sisters, you know." Granby flashed him a quick smile and carried the baby off in the direction of the kitchens. Laurence could hear him crooning to her until he turned the corner.

"I hope you're happy now," Tharkay said awfully. "By the time he's done feeding it, he'll be attached. We'll never be rid of that baby now."

~should be shot~

LKASJFASLKDFJASDLF;K

Date: 2009-04-04 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novembersmith.livejournal.com
THERE ARE NO WORDS. I literally cackled while reading this. GRANBY COOING AND CROONING, OH MY GOD. THERE IS NO PART OF THIS THAT IS NOT BRILLIANT. Tharkay is SO DISGRUNTLED.

I bet Iskierka will be ENRAGED. "WHAT IS THAT THING. WHY IS IT MAKING THAT NOISE? IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS DYING, YOU SHOULD JUST PUT IT DOWN."

Re: LKASJFASLKDFJASDLF;K

Date: 2009-04-04 11:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
oh man, I did not even think about Iskierka's reaction! she would be SO ANNOYED. it is a tiny useless screamy thing, why does Granby like it? what if he likes it more than her?! and Granby takes it with him everywhere, and he sings to it, she only wants him to sing to her! and meanwhile Laurence and Tharkay are being so very very blueballed, and Laurence is pretending he doesn't mind because it was his idea in the first place, but Tharkay doesn't care about being the nice guy so he spends a lot of time bonding with Iskierka over how much they don't like that stupid baby.

(only Granby and Laurence get sent on a mission or something so Tharkay has to manage without them for a week and at the end he's sort of grudgingly fond of her. he's not evil.

Re: LKASJFASLKDFJASDLF;K

Date: 2009-04-05 12:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novembersmith.livejournal.com
Oh oh oh, and then when Granby and Laurence get back they are utterly flabbergasted, because Iskierka has decided that if Granby really must have a baby, then he need not dress her in plain white rags and bits of old coat, that is great nonsense. They return to find Tharkay holding her with a very bland expression on his face, with her swaddled in gold silk and pearls--Temeraire had eventually got into the spirit of things, of course.

"It is still very loud," Iskierka told them, not seeming to notice they were both standing with jaws agape. "But at least it looks nice, now. See, Granby, I have made it so that she matches your sword!"

"But lord, she will be spitting up all over any minute now," Laurence said, horrified, having been victim of this very activity on numerous occasions. He had lost two coats that way, before he learned to mimic Granby and lay down a cloth over his shoulder prior to taking her up in his arms.

"Oh not to worry," Tharkay said, and bounced her gently. There was an unsettling gleam in his eyes. "Iskierka thought of that. We have many spare sets. In a great number of colors."

"Well," Granby said, and bent to pick her up, swinging her in the air so that she glittered and giggled. "She does look a little princess now, doesn't she? Oof, you have gotten bigger while I was gone, princess, what have they been feeding you?"


<3 disgruntled Tharkay to bits, omg!

Re: LKASJFASLKDFJASDLF;K

Date: 2009-04-05 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
AHAHAHA OF COURSE SHE HAS SILK BABYCLOTHES. AND PEARLS.

you know that Tharkay is really just disgruntled because Granby has been too busy with the baby to have time for sex! he did not sign up for this celibacy nonsense.

"Oh, thank you," Granby sighed, leaning back in his chair as Tharkay rubbed his shoulders. "That's lovely; I've got so used to the knots I can barely remember when it didn't hurt." The baby in his arms gurgled a little, and the muscles under Tharkay's hands tensed again. "All right, there, princess? Are you hungry? Shall we get you a meal?"

"You stay where you are," Tharkay said firmly, pushing Granby back down when he made as though to rise. "Laurence! Princess is hungry."

Laurence, who was writing a letter at the desk, looked up with a puzzled expression. Tharkay stared meaningfully, and he suddenly said, "Oh! Yes, of course, I'll just go and feed her, shall I?"

Granby looked a little uncertain. "Will, I do not mean to be rude, but..."

"If Tharkay could manage an entire week without you, I am quite sure I will be able to feed her by myself," Laurence said firmly. He came over to Granby and took the baby from his reluctant arms.

Princess immediately began to cry.

"No, no, we'll be just fine," Laurence said feebly, batting away Granby's hands when he reached out to take her back. "There, there, nothing to cry about..." Her shrieks grew louder, and Laurence looked pleadingly at Tharkay. Tharkay merely glared back stonily, and Laurence gulped and remarked, "Well, perhaps she just needs a change. We'll go do that, shan't we, Princess? It'll be lovely! Just you and your Papa Will. You'll like that, won't you?"

From Princess' continued screaming, she would not like that at all, but Laurence carried her out of the room before Granby could break out of Tharkay's iron grip to grab her back. Her howling could be heard even through the closed door.

"There," Tharkay said, only half-concealing his immense feeling of satisfaction. "Take off your shirt and go lie down; I shall fetch the massage oil and do this properly."

"Oh, but - " Granby protested, getting to his feet as he stared worriedly at the door. Tharkay caught his shoulders again and turned him forcibly so they were face to face. "Tharkay, I couldn't - "

Tharkay kissed him. Granby mumbled for a moment, but then he seemed to get into the spirit of things, especially when Tharkay's hands worked their way under his shirt and smoothed across the warm skin of his back. "Off," Tharkay repeated as he drew back again, tugging at the shirt.

Granby obediently unbuttoned it, a dazed look on his face. When Tharkay turned away to retrieve the oil, however, some of his sense returned, and he objected, "But, Tharkay, Laurence - "

Tharkay found the bottle he had been looking for and came back to Granby's side with a dangerous light in his eyes. "Laurence," he said, deceptively calm, "has had you to himself all week. So if you would like a massage, kindly remove your clothing and go lie down; if you do not, I fear I shall be obliged to ravish you where you stand."

Granby gulped and took off his shirt.


disgruntled Tharkay is &hearts! also, I am so sorry about the baby's name, but your Granby called her that and then I had this sudden flash of him telling Iskierka she could name the baby so she wouldn't be so jealous and Iskierka wanted all these horrible names like "Smelly" and "Screechy" and "Pink Blob" so when she suggested "Princess" Granby just gave up and said okay. probably not a legitimate excuse. oh well.

YOU GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYS. WHY SO BRILLIANT?

Date: 2009-04-05 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] t-lyrical.livejournal.com
*thread jumping YOU CAN'T BLAME ME* Oh god, Laurence and Princess crack me the hell up.

And... just this whole scenario... WIN. SO MUCH OF IT.

Re: YOU GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYS. WHY SO BRILLIANT?

Date: 2009-04-05 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
~tackleglomp~ don't you like being blamed for everything? all this crack - totally all your fault. =D

Re: YOU GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYS. WHY SO BRILLIANT?

Date: 2009-04-05 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] t-lyrical.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm sure there is plenty of blame to shared all around, but SOME PEOPLE keeping on fanning the flames and making other people explode with glee.

I swear, no amount of ten-step programs will stop my addiction to crack now. D:

Re: YOU GUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUYS. WHY SO BRILLIANT?

Date: 2009-04-05 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
haha, but you were the instigating force, my dear, seeing as you introduced us.

some addictions are just not a problem, really!

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