I totally get you and I'm not saying anyone should stop being a Liverpool supporter, dude. I, personally, have reached the point where "reasons to be happy when Liverpool wins" are outweighed by "reasons to be pissed when Liverpool wins". it's not a very precise metric. XD and I was never much of a Liverpool fan so it's easy for me to say, obvs.
I know I come at football fandom from a weird angle compared to most people because for me, the team is the team is the team, and the club is mostly this nebulous ~thing that you sort of have to grow into. look, I wasn't around for the shit years, I wasn't around for the first Champions League, I'm not going to pretend I was. any emotions I have about the stuff that happened to the club come through a filter of how it affects or affected my team. I care about ~Barça the club~ because my team is a manifestation of ~Barça the club~, not the other way around. in five years I'll maybe have piled up enough history to have a personal interpretation of ~my club~ but for now? my team. idk if I'm making any sense here, but. history is important inasmuch as it affects the present, I think is what I'm saying. no more, no less. and for some people the present is influenced by all the past presents that they've lived through, but I've got... what, a year and a half, two years. which is a lot of time in my personal life but a heartbeat in the history of football. for me, football is NOW. (and the two years preceding. and any relevant history that I have absorbed. NOT A PRECISE METRIC.)
idek, there was some runofplay piece about how you fall in love with a team and the club will forever and ever and ever be that team to you and I think that was basically what I was trying to say. but it works both ways, you know? for me, this team is Liverpool. and there's great stuff about them and not so great stuff about them and right now for me the not so great stuff is winning out, so I don't like them. in ten years maybe they'll balance it out, but I can't start ten years ago. I started two years ago. right now they are where they are.
ugh sorry for the tl;dr. feel free to ignore my ~thoughts on yaoi~
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Date: 2012-03-04 05:25 pm (UTC)I know I come at football fandom from a weird angle compared to most people because for me, the team is the team is the team, and the club is mostly this nebulous ~thing that you sort of have to grow into. look, I wasn't around for the shit years, I wasn't around for the first Champions League, I'm not going to pretend I was. any emotions I have about the stuff that happened to the club come through a filter of how it affects or affected my team. I care about ~Barça the club~ because my team is a manifestation of ~Barça the club~, not the other way around. in five years I'll maybe have piled up enough history to have a personal interpretation of ~my club~ but for now? my team. idk if I'm making any sense here, but. history is important inasmuch as it affects the present, I think is what I'm saying. no more, no less. and for some people the present is influenced by all the past presents that they've lived through, but I've got... what, a year and a half, two years. which is a lot of time in my personal life but a heartbeat in the history of football. for me, football is NOW. (and the two years preceding. and any relevant history that I have absorbed. NOT A PRECISE METRIC.)
idek, there was some runofplay piece about how you fall in love with a team and the club will forever and ever and ever be that team to you and I think that was basically what I was trying to say. but it works both ways, you know? for me, this team is Liverpool. and there's great stuff about them and not so great stuff about them and right now for me the not so great stuff is winning out, so I don't like them. in ten years maybe they'll balance it out, but I can't start ten years ago. I started two years ago. right now they are where they are.
ugh sorry for the tl;dr. feel free to ignore my ~thoughts on yaoi~