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leaving for Paris for the weekend, probably won't have internet at all until I get back on Sunday. as per usual, if something happens and you think I'd like to know about it, link in the comments! you all were great when I went to Poland. :)

VAMOS RAFA
AJDE SRBIJA
PLEASE STOP SUCKING LIVERPOOL (ALSO FIRE ROY HODGSON)
GET WELL SOON BB SILVA, WE NEED YOU
GOOOOOOO VILLARREAL
VISCA EL BARÇA, VISCA CATALUNYA

I think that covers everything!

Date: 2011-01-10 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
yeah, I don't really watch the games for anything but the goal celebrations (and Ray Hudson's commentary) so playing style has no effect on my liking or not liking a team. unless it makes them lose all the time, because I'm a patient woman but I can only take so much grief, haha. FIX YOURSELVES, LIVERPOOL. THIS RELATIONSHIP IS STARTING TO GET ABUSIVE.

that's a good point about Arsene - idk, on the one hand it's really hilarious to see coaches with feuds and agendas and everything (Rafa Benitez and Mou for instance XD) but I think it's kind of embarrassing when it's your coach. reason #754 why Pep > everything, I guess. he doesn't always manage to keep from making it about him (cough El Clasico cough bus-trip rant) but he makes a concerted effort, which I appreciate. lol at all the players trolling on twitter to complain about refereeing decisions though (both Liverpool and Arsenal). children, children! your ill-considered remarks will be preserved for posterity!

Date: 2011-01-10 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardia.livejournal.com
Heeeee, STARTING to get abusive? Girl, I don't know about you, but I passed that point a LONG time ago, damn. (Although Dalglish's appointment is making things a bit better--it's nice to read quotes from the Liverpool manager that don't make me want to cover my eyes.)

The whole managers with feuds/agendas is a really fascinating thing to watch--on one hand, it does have the effect of creating a us-versus-the-world mentality on occasion, which I believe is part of why Mou acts the way he does, because he believes it unifies the team and gets them behind him. And, to be fair, that approach does seem to be working at Real Madrid. (Also, because he's addicted to the drama/trolling, girl did you HEAR about the Villerreal match?) But on the other, it opens up the team to more scrutiny that they might not otherwise get, and personally, I don't like having to excuse/defend/condemn the manager of my team all the time. So like you, I appreciate Pep not taking that kind of role--for the most part, at least.

Ahahahahaha, I ain't even mad at Ryan Babel for that tweet--he totally shouldn't have done it, but I'm sorry, the FA should have bigger issues on its plate than one tweet about a referee that everyone agrees is controversial at BEST. (I still insist that Webb has a bias against Spaniards lol.)

Date: 2011-01-10 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardia.livejournal.com
and OH, I almost forgot--this website has highlights from all the Barca/RM games with Ray Hudson commentary. Just in case you were looking for it. AND, as if that weren't enough, somebody's taken the craziest of Hudson's quotes and turned them into spoken word poetry, IDEK. I was particularly charmed by the verse describing Messi as a "zombie hunter looking for a Twinkie."

Date: 2011-01-10 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
you know, it's funny about Mourinho, because as you say, it really does work. his players love him, they defend him, it's pretty similar to the way Barça's players clearly feel about Pep, except that the Barcelona kids are so young that they'll still do stupid shit like get into fights over it. (that said, I'm not entirely sure Casillas is sold on Mou. do you ever get the sense that he's being very diplomatic in his interviews, but not terribly enthusiastic? he has to defend Mou because Mou's his coach, but I never get the OMG HDU SPEAK THAT WAY ABOUT HIM vibe off Casillas that you'd get from, idk, Drogba.) but it only works when the manager is able to take ALL the heat for his players and stamp out any internal splits before they start. I'm not sure anybody in the modern game besides Mou has the force of personality to pull it off. (ugh yeah I did hear about the Villarreal game. sure, pal. sure you were celebrating with your son. and I hate that I have to be skeptical about that because I know that he must love his children very much, but I don't think he should be bringing that into his professional life.)

also WHEE RAY HUDSON. (though I am hurt you don't remember me linking to the found poetry version on tumblr ages ago. XD)

Date: 2011-01-10 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardia.livejournal.com
Honestly, if there's anybody who I want, once they retire, to write and publish a no-holds-barred, air-all-the-dirty-laundry type of autobiography, it's Iker Casillas. I always get the sense he could say a LOT about playing for Real Madrid if he chose to, but I doubt he ever will. (Not that I'm doubting his loyalty to that club at ALL.) As for his relationship with Mou, I really don't know--I remember him saying once that the team might belong to Flo Perez, but the players belong to Mourinho, which seems like a ringing endorsement, except that it happened, if I recall correctly, when Mou was the closest yet to a public disagreement with Perez and the club, so you kind of expect the team captain to back up the manager, particularly when Mourinho appeared to be sticking HIS neck out on behalf of the team. I do definitely get the vibe that Iker is still a bit tetchy regarding the way that the whole Ronaldo vs Carbonero mess happened, and the response of the club to it. IDK, I think mostly it's a difference of temperament--Iker has never struck me as a dude who loves having drama play out in public.

As for Mourinho, you're right, there are very few managers who can pull that kind of thing off. I'd add possibly Sir Alex Ferguson to that very short list of "managers with 'TUDE", but SAF has a few advantages that Mourinho won't have, at Real Madrid or anywhere else--Ferguson is very much of the "establishment", he's been at the same club for years and years, and he also, frankly, has the advantage of being British in a league that still, IMO, has something of a anti-foreign bias. With Mourinho, it's ALL force of personality.

As for the Villarreal game--oh, for God's sake, Mou, REALLY? Really, now. Like you, I hate being skeptical about that, I do not doubt at all his love for his family, but even unamadridista agreed, he should have known better. It's not like this is the first game of the season, after all--I don't even know if this is the first time that RM has come back to win the game this season. He shouldn't have done it, end of story--and as for his complaints that nobody gives him the benefit of the doubt--dude, look at your record. When you (deliberately) troll like that, you don't get "benefit of the doubt".

And HEEE, I knew somebody had linked that on tumblr, but I didn't realize it was you! Apologies, apologies.

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