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seriously, have you ever had a moment like you've suddenly realized you're in the Matrix? good god. I was reading all these really ancient and very detailed wank reports on Cassie Claire's circle back in the day and had the sudden horrific thought... what if I'm a troll too?

...you guys would tell me if I were a troll, right? I know I don't always remember to be nice. and I was kind of a bitch over the fbkink thing. and I say awful things sometimes without really thinking about it. and got told by a Canadian yesterday that I'm embarrassing to be seen with because I swear too much, so it's not even just an online thing.

but if I'm being awful please just tell me, okay? I don't want to be a troll.

fandom is scary sometimes.

(PS: good god [livejournal.com profile] cornerflag why must you be so difficult to write.)

Date: 2011-03-06 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
don't worry about intruding! (and you don't have to be anon, we're friendly types, I promise, but if you're more comfortable that way don't worry about it :D)

I am also super-psyched for this sensitive Villa concept! I admit I was originally thinking of Leo as a late-blooming sensitive - he wasn't at all when he was young, and now he's starting to be much more so as he gets older, which is completely bewildering to everyone since that's not the way it's supposed to work - but Villa as the undiscovered sensitive is amazing. and he keeps half-forming bonds and then his potential bondmates keep leaving and he doesn't understand why this makes him feel so awful because nobody knows enough to tell him what's happening except Pepe and Pepe couldn't because he's not a Barcelona player and so Villa is grumpy all the time. <333

(and to [livejournal.com profile] mardia - yeah, the full medical procedure is just some weird blood transfusion with added chemical things. ~handwave~ it's not actually very complicated because they only do it with people who are compatible anyway.)

Date: 2011-03-06 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardia.livejournal.com
Not gonna lie, I kind of love the idea of David Villa as the sensitive one, even if it would mean a shit-ton of research into the Valencia team and David Silva. I love the idea of him forming this tentative bond with Fernando and Pepe circa Euro 2008 and being all happy and sunshiny, and then the Euros are over and he's miserable once more, and then he has to leave Silva and Valencia and it is just the WORST.

Except then there's Leo and Barcelona, and David doesn't know why Pepe's relieved to see him go to Barca, and then Emil the physio starts ~facepalming~ all over the place before he sits David down and explains a few things.

...oh shit. Okay, you're gonna be the one to write this, RIGHT? BECAUSE I CAN'T, OKAY?

(yeah, that's what I figured--haha, would I love to be a fly on the wall the day that Iker figures it out.)

Date: 2011-03-06 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
SILVA IS SO CUTE YOU WILL LOVE HIM

uh. I mean. yes. oh, man, now I'm afraid I will end up writing something vaguely about this, and ~headdesk~ because I honestly don't know that much about Silva's past either (except that apparently his BFF is Alexis Ruano, now of Sevilla, idek, Valencia, man, I like them but they are complicated and a mess). Pepe, Fernando and DVilla actually go all the way back to the youth teams, that's why they're so tight! I do wish more people would write about Villa and Fernando being friends instead of hating each other. I'm pretty sure they don't. =/

(haha oh dear. I have actually written this part already. basically Xavi has a psychotic break after Spain gets knocked out of the World Cup and Andres has to calm him down by sleeping with him [literally sleeping, don't go there] and Iker understandably misinterprets this to mean that Xavi's big secret that he's not telling Iker is that he's gay and dating Andres. ironically this is not true at the time, or at least not the second part, but it ends up being true later.)

Date: 2011-03-06 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardia.livejournal.com
God, look at me, I'm already crushing on Arsenal players, I have a soft spot for Iker and Xabi on RM, and with the way everybody else talks about this dude, I know good and well I'll be incapable of resisting Silva's force field of cute. FFFFF. (At least I don't like any Man Utd players?)

Seriously, we need more primers in footie fandom, for serious. (Also, I know very little about Valencia other than one or two articles, but is it really true they haven't renewed Unai's contract yet? WTF.)

!!! Oh man, POOR XAVI. And hah, Iker, wrong even when he's eventually proven right. I am kind of loving the idea of suspicious!Iker eventually coming to the totally wrong conclusion. Please oh please tell me there's a super awkward conversation where Iker tries to tell his BFF that it's okay if he's dating Andres, really.

Date: 2011-03-06 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nahco3.livejournal.com
just butting in but if you ever want Valencia info (anyone!) feel free to hit me up, I've been a fan of the club for a long long time. and I'd be happy to walk you through some of their crazy history, if you ever want.

Date: 2011-03-06 03:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardia.livejournal.com
Um, I might actually hit you up on that, because I'm fairly convinced that if I could only get D.Villa's history before coming to Barcelona, I'd be writing that dude, like, ALL THE TIME. Like, who was he friends with at Valencia, what was his relationship w/ the team (obviously good, if he's visiting the club and such on days off), and really, wtf was the deal with him and Raul?

(Actually, and this is a question I've always meant to ask at large, but I've heard talk of how Raul was shittily treated by Real Madrid/Perez, and does anybody have details on this?)

hahaha, sorry for dumping all these questions on you, I just haven't been able to find anything but vague talk about them.

Date: 2011-03-06 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nahco3.livejournal.com
so, DV came to Valencia in 2006. he was good friends with Silva, Fernando Morientes, Juan Mata and Joaquin. (I think?) If I remember correctly, he used to room with Morientes when they played away games, but I could be wrong about that.

he had a really good relationship with the team. he said (multiple times) that he would never leave unless the club wanted him too, and I like to think he would have seen himself remaining at Valencia for the rest of his career. he was obviously loved by the fans (and Valencia fans can be kind of...acrimonious) because of what a talented player he was.

the thing with Raul, well... I don't know if you watched World Cup in 2006, but basically Raul wore the 7 jersey for Spain at the time and was Spain's captain, and Spain had a very disappointing tournament. shortly after the Cup, Raul got dropped from the squad, and DV was awarded the 7 jersey. this obviously pissed off Raul because he was really a symbol of Spanish football, was their top goal scorer in history, etc. DV also gave some interviews about getting the 7 jersey that weren't the nicest most polite things ever.

the Perez thing is probably in reference to the fact that Raul was also Real's captain and generally awesome symbolic player, and was sold to Schalke this year against his will. It's kind of...the most horrifying transfer you can imagine, in a way, because Raul and Real are pretty much metonyms. and Perez is a huge douche (in my opinion) for many things, but pretty much heartlessly selling his club's most symbolic player, who has only ever played for Real, who has won it all with them, etc, is pretty shitty even for him. esp. since Raul's having a great season at Schalke now, and Real is having a bit of a striker crisis.

let me know if you have any other questions? I'm obviously happy to explain this stuff. :)

Date: 2011-03-06 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardia.livejournal.com
Raul was also Real's captain and generally awesome symbolic player, and was sold to Schalke this year against his will.

Wait. What.

No, I'm sorry, let's just go back a second. I did know that Raul was basically the symbol of Real Madrid--I basically saw it as him being Real Madrid's Gerrard, which makes perfect sense--and Perez did what? How.

(haha, sorry, I just--man, I'm picturing Steven Gerrard being put in the same position, and I kinda wanna throw up at the thought, ngl. Jeez, and I thought what I'd heard of del Bosque's exit was bad. WTF, Perez!)

Actually, the first time I ever saw a WC match was in Madrid (I was there as part of a school trip, and even though I wasn't into soccer at the time, it was obvious how much the tournament meant) and I remember watching Spain go out to France, and my very unhappy Spanish landlady on the phone with her sons, lamenting the loss.

But that's really cool info about Villa and Valencia--I knew he'd left the club on excellent terms, and obviously has a ton of affection for the club. I'm glad to have him at Barca, ngl, but it's a shame he had to leave under those circumstances.

Date: 2011-03-06 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nahco3.livejournal.com
and Perez did what? How

the situation is slightly more complex than the way I've represented it but in a nutshell: he was injured for a lot of the 2010 season and unable to play. it was made clear to him that if he stayed at Real he'd be an infrequent substitute at best, not be played at all at worst. Perez was a dick, Raul decided to leave over being forced into premature retirement. there's a lot more hinted at about back room stuff, but nothing can really be confirmed.

I'm picturing Steven Gerrard being put in the same position, and I kinda wanna throw up at the thought, ngl. Jeez, and I thought what I'd heard of del Bosque's exit was bad. WTF, Perez!

yeah. it's pretty much...the worst possible transfer. especially coming right after Guti's transfer.

I'm glad to have him at Barca, ngl, but it's a shame he had to leave under those circumstances

it is. I try to be happy for Barca fans that they've got him now, and that he's at last being properly appreciated. (for years and years, he was as good as he is now but no one seemed to realize it but Valencia fans. very frustrating.) but I'm still a tad bitter. sigh.

Date: 2011-03-06 05:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardia.livejournal.com
Holy crap. It certainly puts Mourinho's striker "dilemma" (the quotes are deliberate) into a much more ironic light, damn.

I'm surprised more RM fans aren't in revolt over Perez. (Although given Rosell's antics at Barca this year, it's not like I have any room to talk, ugh.)

And I am sorry, no wonder you're still bitter, jeez. Um, at least he hasn't scored against you this season? Sorry, I'm trying to find an upside here, lol.

Date: 2011-03-06 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louis-quatorze.livejournal.com
This is why I'm totally in favor of Raul/Manuel Neuer. since Schalke will probably have to sell Manu in the summer, even though he's been with the club since he was 4 and used to go hang out on the terraces with the ultras until he got too famous. THEY UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER. except probably not language-wise.

Date: 2011-03-07 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardia.livejournal.com
Aw, jeez, poor Neuer. (I'd heard that he'd been very gracious and tight-lipped about all the transfer rumors swirling around him, and it makes sense as to why.) And HEE, I bet they DO understand each other quite a bit, Lord.

Date: 2011-03-07 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louis-quatorze.livejournal.com
I know. I feel bad. :/ Bayern Munich would be such a bad idea for him, what with his particularly intimate history with the Schalke fans, but Bayern are the mafia of German football and well. poor boy. I bet Raul is telling him all kinds of cynical stuff about how clubs treat their legends when they get old...

Date: 2011-03-07 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mardia.livejournal.com
Oh jeez. I've heard that Bayern Munich goes in for what I call the Pokemon-method (gotta catch 'em all! no matter what it costs) of transfers, but no, it doesn't sound like a good idea for him to go there. (Will he even STAY in the Bundesliga is my question, I keep hearing about him being linked with Man Utd.)

I bet Raul is telling him all kinds of cynical stuff about how clubs treat their legends when they get old...

Oh, fff. I bet at first Raul's cynical and totally uninvested about it, but as he starts to get used to the club and to Neuer...UGH UGH UGH. And then Neuer turns it back on him and asks if he honestly thinks he won't go back to Real Madrid someday.

Date: 2011-03-07 10:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] louis-quatorze.livejournal.com
They seriously do. Especially if the player a) played well against them and b) is German. It's really more about crippling potential rivals than needing the player, because they are the mafia. Most of the time it doesn't work out and it screws up the player- Baumjohann, Podolski, Schlaudraff, Jensen, Mario Gomez is a shadow of what he was at Stuttgart, and those are just from the last two years- but it keeps Bayern top. I never want any player I like to go there. (Although to be fair, they do have a good record of developing their own youth products lately.)

awww. ;_; poor Raul. and Neuer would ask him that.
Edited Date: 2011-03-07 10:33 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-03-06 08:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meretricula.livejournal.com
1) Park Ji-Suuuuuuuung~ and Patrice Evra may have something to say about that :DD



2) [livejournal.com profile] ontd_football might have something, for what it's worth - they're good for primers.

3) ahahahaha yes except Xavi doesn't understand what Iker is talking about. and then Iker sends Andres a ton of threatening texts about how badly he will hurt him if he ever fails to treat Xavi right, because Iker is a good best friend. XD

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