existential crisis!!!
Mar. 5th, 2011 12:56 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
meretriculaseriously, have you ever had a moment like you've suddenly realized you're in the Matrix? good god. I was reading all these really ancient and very detailed wank reports on Cassie Claire's circle back in the day and had the sudden horrific thought... what if I'm a troll too?
...you guys would tell me if I were a troll, right? I know I don't always remember to be nice. and I was kind of a bitch over the fbkink thing. and I say awful things sometimes without really thinking about it. and got told by a Canadian yesterday that I'm embarrassing to be seen with because I swear too much, so it's not even just an online thing.
but if I'm being awful please just tell me, okay? I don't want to be a troll.
fandom is scary sometimes.
(PS: good god![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
cornerflag why must you be so difficult to write.)
...you guys would tell me if I were a troll, right? I know I don't always remember to be nice. and I was kind of a bitch over the fbkink thing. and I say awful things sometimes without really thinking about it. and got told by a Canadian yesterday that I'm embarrassing to be seen with because I swear too much, so it's not even just an online thing.
but if I'm being awful please just tell me, okay? I don't want to be a troll.
fandom is scary sometimes.
(PS: good god
cornerflag why must you be so difficult to write.)
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Date: 2011-03-05 09:43 pm (UTC)2. ~cries into her plateful of peanut-butter chocolate-chip-cookies~ I CANNOT BELIEVE I AM STRESS-EATING OVER FANFICTION
3. OMG I WOULD BE SO PROUD :') AND YES HOLY SHIT I WILL BE DELIGHTED TO TALK ABOUT SOUL-BONDING ALL DAY LONG YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU HAVE STARTED.
ummmm basically first off no other club "officially" bonds players. (like, the medical procedure where they intentionally pair players up - nobody would ever do that. that is crazy-ass Dutch shit that gets people killed.) for the most part other clubs aren't aware that it's a possibility - there's a big plot-point in the half-written sequel that all the Barcelona players past and present have to smoke-screen for Xavi because nobody who plays for other teams (and in particular Iker) can find out why he's freaking out so badly over Iniesta not playing with him. but obviously there is some cross-over with transfers and I think Raul knew about Pep and Figo even if he never said anything.
(also Iniesta and Xavi are really unusual in that they can affect each other off the pitch and even sort of communicate telepathically. the idea is to help players play together better, not to completely invade their privacy or make them incapable of ever playing without each other. Cesc, Pique and Messi are completely fine without each other, it doesn't really affect them at all. like, Pique and Cesc knew when Leo broke his leg, but it didn't hurt them. Pep was upset about Figo leaving but it didn't make him physically sick. part of the problem for Xavi and Andres is that they actually feel whatever the other is feeling and nobody can really tell them how to deal with it or make it stop.)
that said! I was sort of toying with the idea of spontaneous bonding? like, if two people are compatible enough and spend enough time together, they will bond even without medical assistance. (this is possibly why Xavi and Iniesta bonded so tightly initially, that they would have done so eventually anyway. it will probably displease you to know that I was thinking about this in relation to Villa and Messi and their spontaneous strike partnership, lol.) in my handwave-y AU science talk, all the adrenaline in football matches speeds the process up, though the younger you are, the more susceptible you are, so there's two forces working against each other. you bond to someone you've been around a long time, but once you get to a certain age it probably won't take, which is why it's really only possible on a large scale at places like Barcelona or Athletic Bilbao. and the ethical issues are something that nobody really paid attention to under Cruyff, but after that there were a couple of "oh shit" moments and people started being more careful about letting teenagers make permanent bonds. (and, like, more relevant to your plot: I don't think Valencia or indeed David Villa or David Silva would be likely to recognize that they were bonded until after Villa transferred, but idk, I think that could be fun and interesting too, that not having Silva around makes Villa upset and possibly even a little sick and nobody knows why until Emili checks his bloodwork himself and is all "ffffffff your medical SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THIS" and has to explain the whole concept. or else you could ignore me and make up new and exciting canon, haha. whichever!)
oh god I could rant all day. um. sorry. =/
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Date: 2011-03-05 11:26 pm (UTC)(Good luck with cornerflag! And, in the indeterminate future, with Spain NT Huge Coverup sequel! squeeee....)
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Date: 2011-03-06 02:16 am (UTC)thank you! :)
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Date: 2011-03-06 12:16 am (UTC)And I like the idea of Villa developing all these spontaneous bonds with other people, lololol. (I personally kind of love the idea of him making these bonds with more than one person--Silva, Torres, Reina, all to various degrees, and it being the real explanation for how moody-tetchy he can get on occasion, and nobody figures it out until he comes to Barcelona and bonds with Messi.)
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Date: 2011-03-06 12:30 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-03-06 01:06 am (UTC)I am also super-psyched for this sensitive Villa concept! I admit I was originally thinking of Leo as a late-blooming sensitive - he wasn't at all when he was young, and now he's starting to be much more so as he gets older, which is completely bewildering to everyone since that's not the way it's supposed to work - but Villa as the undiscovered sensitive is amazing. and he keeps half-forming bonds and then his potential bondmates keep leaving and he doesn't understand why this makes him feel so awful because nobody knows enough to tell him what's happening except Pepe and Pepe couldn't because he's not a Barcelona player and so Villa is grumpy all the time. <333
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Date: 2011-03-06 01:28 am (UTC)Except then there's Leo and Barcelona, and David doesn't know why Pepe's relieved to see him go to Barca, and then Emil the physio starts ~facepalming~ all over the place before he sits David down and explains a few things.
...oh shit. Okay, you're gonna be the one to write this, RIGHT? BECAUSE I CAN'T, OKAY?
(yeah, that's what I figured--haha, would I love to be a fly on the wall the day that Iker figures it out.)
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Date: 2011-03-06 02:02 am (UTC)uh. I mean. yes. oh, man, now I'm afraid I will end up writing something vaguely about this, and ~headdesk~ because I honestly don't know that much about Silva's past either (except that apparently his BFF is Alexis Ruano, now of Sevilla, idek, Valencia, man, I like them but they are complicated and a mess). Pepe, Fernando and DVilla actually go all the way back to the youth teams, that's why they're so tight! I do wish more people would write about Villa and Fernando being friends instead of hating each other. I'm pretty sure they don't. =/
(haha oh dear. I have actually written this part already. basically Xavi has a psychotic break after Spain gets knocked out of the World Cup and Andres has to calm him down by sleeping with him [literally sleeping, don't go there] and Iker understandably misinterprets this to mean that Xavi's big secret that he's not telling Iker is that he's gay and dating Andres. ironically this is not true at the time, or at least not the second part, but it ends up being true later.)
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Date: 2011-03-06 03:11 am (UTC)Seriously, we need more primers in footie fandom, for serious. (Also, I know very little about Valencia other than one or two articles, but is it really true they haven't renewed Unai's contract yet? WTF.)
!!! Oh man, POOR XAVI. And hah, Iker, wrong even when he's eventually proven right. I am kind of loving the idea of suspicious!Iker eventually coming to the totally wrong conclusion. Please oh please tell me there's a super awkward conversation where Iker tries to tell his BFF that it's okay if he's dating Andres, really.
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Date: 2011-03-06 03:27 am (UTC)(Actually, and this is a question I've always meant to ask at large, but I've heard talk of how Raul was shittily treated by Real Madrid/Perez, and does anybody have details on this?)
hahaha, sorry for dumping all these questions on you, I just haven't been able to find anything but vague talk about them.
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Date: 2011-03-06 04:30 am (UTC)he had a really good relationship with the team. he said (multiple times) that he would never leave unless the club wanted him too, and I like to think he would have seen himself remaining at Valencia for the rest of his career. he was obviously loved by the fans (and Valencia fans can be kind of...acrimonious) because of what a talented player he was.
the thing with Raul, well... I don't know if you watched World Cup in 2006, but basically Raul wore the 7 jersey for Spain at the time and was Spain's captain, and Spain had a very disappointing tournament. shortly after the Cup, Raul got dropped from the squad, and DV was awarded the 7 jersey. this obviously pissed off Raul because he was really a symbol of Spanish football, was their top goal scorer in history, etc. DV also gave some interviews about getting the 7 jersey that weren't the nicest most polite things ever.
the Perez thing is probably in reference to the fact that Raul was also Real's captain and generally awesome symbolic player, and was sold to Schalke this year against his will. It's kind of...the most horrifying transfer you can imagine, in a way, because Raul and Real are pretty much metonyms. and Perez is a huge douche (in my opinion) for many things, but pretty much heartlessly selling his club's most symbolic player, who has only ever played for Real, who has won it all with them, etc, is pretty shitty even for him. esp. since Raul's having a great season at Schalke now, and Real is having a bit of a striker crisis.
let me know if you have any other questions? I'm obviously happy to explain this stuff. :)
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Date: 2011-03-06 08:38 am (UTC)2)
3) ahahahaha yes except Xavi doesn't understand what Iker is talking about. and then Iker sends Andres a ton of threatening texts about how badly he will hurt him if he ever fails to treat Xavi right, because Iker is a good best friend. XD
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Date: 2011-03-06 03:11 am (UTC)basically, the manager of Valencia in 2007 was Ronald Koeman who played for the Barca dream team with Pep et al, and was also Dutch, and later went on to be an assistant manger at Barca for brief time. when he was at Valencia (imo) he really really fucked over the club in a lot of ways. anyway, he'd obviously have an understanding of what bonding is. but because he's a total fucking douchebag, he'd have no compunctions about doing borderline unethical stuff. because of that, I was considering having him be the one who bonded DV and DS, but in a very sketchy and unsafe kind of way. which possibly they wouldn't even be aware of - ie, he was just like "do this, it'll be great for the team!" without explaining. and then got fired before anyone really knew what happened. so the Barca medical team easily could have been the first people to really properly explain to DV what was up.
(also Iniesta and Xavi are really unusual in that they can affect each other off the pitch and even sort of communicate telepathically.
I figured their bond wasn't the norm. but I would be very remiss in not giving DV and DS an equally powerful source of psychic connection. I'm sure you understand. :)
in relation to Villa and Messi and their spontaneous strike partnership
I won't hold that against you. much.
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Date: 2011-03-06 03:29 am (UTC)Ooooh. Was this the year they won the Copa del Rey, may I ask? I remember reading an article (probably by Sid Lowe, heh, I should look that up) about how the club was going absolutely INSANE that year, and not even winning a trophy could fix it.
But man, that is a GREAT idea for a story. Oh man, poor Villa and Silva.
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Date: 2011-03-06 03:34 am (UTC)that, I believe, was the year the board decided to build Valencia's new stadium which is the project that put them so in debt they ended up having to sell DV and DS. (and also stop playing players wages for a while.) because that season was such a shitshow, their was also a lot a lot of locker room drama - no one liked Koeman, no one listened to him, the players didn't get along very well, etc.
I should mention that DV and DS stayed close the whole time though. :D :D
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Date: 2011-03-06 03:39 am (UTC)0_0...holy shit. I'm almost afraid to ask, is the new stadium finished or no? And awww, it's great that Villa and Silva stayed close--that type of situation had to be incredibly frustrating, dear God.
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Date: 2011-03-06 03:44 am (UTC)sorry, I just have a lot of ~feelings~ about this.
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Date: 2011-03-06 03:57 am (UTC)Jeez, no wonder Valencia fans are so torn up about the transfers.
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Date: 2011-03-06 04:12 am (UTC)D: If New England Sports Ventures does to Anfield what it did to Fenway Park, they will unlock a lot of value. I visited Fenway last month, pretty amazing the difference between what it looks like now and what it looked like in 2001 (which was the previous time I'd gone).
me: Shiny & new?
D: No, not shiny and new, in line with historic tradition (it's the oldest ballpark in America), but they managed to add a few thousand high-priced seats in a way that seems even more fitting with tradition, if that's possible. They took a ballpark that some had suggested had outlived its sell-by date (all the other competing bids for the Sox wanted to move the Sox to a waterfront ballpark) and revived it.
So yes, if NESV has a track record of "this sort of thing", hopefully they will merely refabulize Anfield instead of incurring way more debt to build a new stadium. Woo! (ngl, I am pretty jealous of your new owners.)
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Date: 2011-03-06 04:20 am (UTC)Considering all the other crap that has happened--and is likely to still happen this season, I am kind of astonished at our luck in these owners. Have you seen us this season? We don't HAVE any luck to spare! And considering all the crap I've seen other owners pull on other teams, I'm just feeling rather relieved at the moment that at least we don't have to worry about that.
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Date: 2011-03-06 08:59 am (UTC)have fun! (and feel free to ask me if you ever have questions blah blah I am totally delighted to be of any help at all though LJ is currently cockblocking me from my comments like a bitch so if I don't notice just poke me again)
but how could you resist this cinematic masterpiece~?
(in all sincerity, though, god they're the most awkwardly adorable cuties in the world.)
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Date: 2011-03-07 04:32 am (UTC)Re: deleted comment to edit it, sorry.
Date: 2011-03-07 10:10 am (UTC)